[General] Bot behavior

[christiandwi]

I think the newest update break the bot's behavior a little
I always play turbo with this bot, if the turbo is causing this issue please let me know

1. Ally can ignore an enemy even if the enemy is passing beside them (3 allies vs 1 enemy)
2. Ally can easily give up chasing enemy after 1 blink backward from the enemy, but after giving up they do nothing just keep going back and forward
3. Bot is broken when they want to do roshan, on dire they will gather at top of the pit instead going inside the pit. As a radiant, they will gather at the bottom of the pit
4. This is an old bug (not sure when, maybe after the lotus pool update), at the late game, i (and my friends) always get message "Can not be sold", maybe this is a bug where bot wants to sell the lotus (?)

[forest0xia]

i think a lot of these are caused by 7.4x patch because i saw that happen to other scripts. What do you suggest how to fix

[neovincent77]

I posted this in another comment thread - I wish I knew how to help you guys directly but sadly, not my area of expertise.
A lot of the issues that Christiandwi mentioned would likely be resolved if the AI listened to pings from players again.

[nguyenhoangdung071096-netizen]

@forest0xia
I’d like to confirm something regarding the 7.41 update. Currently, bot behavior seems less aggressive even when they have an advantage. They often retreat despite being in a winning position.

In previous versions, I usually played at levels 2–3 with Fretbots Mode, and they would push effectively. However, in the current version, even when set to level 5, after around 40 minutes the bots still don’t attack aggressively or commit to clearing towers in a single lane like before.

Since I play with these bots frequently, I can clearly notice the difference in behavior in this update.

[forest0xia]

yeah, i saw that as well and it's mainly due to valve updates to the 7.41 patch. While I'm trying to correct the bot behavior, I'm actually surprised to see that the default bot behavior has improved a lot in different aspects, which made me believe Valve team is back to improve bot experiene. But they didn't mention what they changed for bots, what new apis and modes available now, and how did that affect the existing bot scripts in marketplace. TBH, try the default bots while you wait for me updates. You can still enable Fretbots mode with default bots.

[neovincent77]

I tried default bots - you're right. They are improved, better with denying, pushing towers, etc. Your bots still handle team fights better and their movements are more capable of ganking etc.
I can def see where you are coming from, does seem like they made changes to their bots and that influence or rather - the way it may conflict with your bot behavior may explain some of the weird behaviors I have seen.

[christiandwi]

sorry for coming late, to be honest, i don't really know what to change to fix this behavior.

i will try the latest update and see what can be improved from there

[degacio]

I've noticed that bots aren't able to defend structures on their own. For example, in my last match, the Ancestor/towers weren't being defended. The bots themselves were calling others to defend the structures, but they were going to the jungle to farm. And they're also not doing the Tormentor.

[nguyenhoangdung071096-netizen]

@forest0xia
Thank you for always supporting the community of people who enjoy playing with bots. I will also try to support you with a cup of coffee if possible; I live in Japan, I’m currently looking for a way to top up Alipay.

I’ve also noticed some bot behaviors—for example, tower defense seems a bit slower to react than before, such as teleporting back to defend.

Thank you for everything.

[nguyenhoangdung071096-netizen]

Thank you for the 7.41 update on April 18. I’ve tested it, and the bot’s behavior is very good. There is only one issue: after pushing all three lanes and spawning Mega Creeps, the bots switch to farming instead of trying to finish the game. Thank you very much.

[forest0xia]

Thank you for the 7.41 update on April 18. I’ve tested it, and the bot’s behavior is very good. There is only one issue: after pushing all three lanes and spawning Mega Creeps, the bots switch to farming instead of trying to finish the game. Thank you very much.

@nguyenhoangdung071096-netizen
Try #143.
Also, you can try pinging bots (max ping distance is ~2000 ircc) to keep moving bots to mid and push mid.

[neovincent77]

-Reinstalled bots- these changes should be working and I want to test again. Thanks.