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Hello,

CAFE doesn't really think in terms of "outgroups," though it does assume that the families you are studying exist at the root of your tree: families can't be created on a later branch. As a consequence, if families don't exist in what you're calling your outgroup, CAFE will infer that they were lost along that branch. So if you can live with that (or ignore that inferred loss) there's no problem. Alternatively, just do the analysis without the outgroup--CAFE doesn't mind!

Matt

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This discussion was converted from issue #252 on November 20, 2025 21:32.