Critical Failure from stress

[cazadorfab]

I am not sure if it is directly this mod or a conflict from another but it seems like the machines start to flash the yellow triangle that turns to red and goes to critical failure from very light work. I am using the largest cultivator with a 9rx with the adjustable engine power so I am practically 1000hp and using the largest base game cultivator the tractor bogs down going uphill and shuts down saying critical failure and needs to be repaired. It tells me to reduce load on the machine. I have attempted to adjust the setting between 10% and 1000% in the game settings and it doesn't seem to make a difference as to how fast the stress builds. Like I said it could be a conflict with another mod and I can list them if you'd like. This issue happens with almost every vehicle in any situation from simply driving through fields to pulling loads. Its very strange.

[id577]

Hi! Each case really needs to be looked at individually.

I often get reports that a vehicle goes into overload even though “on paper” it should be enough for a specific implement. But in practice, it often turns out that the implement is right on the edge, the work is being done uphill, in hot weather, or under other demanding conditions.

Please provide the exact combinations you are using: tractor + implement, the map you are playing on, and if possible, the field number. We will check it.

P.S. I have already written this in other issues, but I’ll repeat it here. It is very important to understand that ADS does not interfere with vanilla physics, including current engine load calculation. It only reads the data from the vanilla game engine.

So when ADS warns about overload, it means the game itself considers that the tractor is struggling with the load and reports high engine load values.

Overall, I see quite a few reports about this topic, so I will make the overload thresholds a bit more forgiving.

[cazadorfab]

I am on Riverband Springs map field 24 using the Superchistel cp2050 with the 9rx 830 which is a mod, but if the mod reads from the vanilla game file it'll probably be right on the edge of useable HP. I have also had issues with the Mack Superliner driving through fields with a flatbed hauling hay, it'll act like its bogged in mud and start flashing critical load at 3 mph. The base game 8R with the largest engines struggle to haul base game silage wagons fully loaded up the same field (24) when cutting silage and attempting to pace the base game forage harvester.

[cazadorfab]

Okay I went back and bought the largest Case (base game) with the same cultivator and on the same field and it hit critical load, flashed the red triangle and shut the machine down.

[id577]

Out of curiosity, I reproduced the test: Case + your modded cultivator. It was +28°C outside, and the field already had a mature wheat crop on it. I tried the hardest direction — uphill.

I got around 9–10 km/h out of the 11 km/h maximum working speed for that implement. Near the end of the field I got a warning, but not a critical one. Considering that the engine was at 100% load, this makes sense.

In your case, I see around 5 km/h with the same setup. That means the tractor is really struggling, so it makes sense that you get a critical overload warning. Are you possibly using any other mods, such as More Realistic? As far as I know, that mod significantly reworks engine load, although I am not completely sure.

Overall, ADS is behaving logically here. If an implement has a maximum working speed of 11 km/h, and the tractor is only managing 5 km/h, that clearly shows that the tractor cannot handle it and cannot reach the working speed. Around 9–10 km/h is the “on the edge” scenario, where the vehicle is just barely enough.

From the ADS side, everything is working as intended. The reasons why the vehicle cannot handle the load are outside the scope of the mod.

Do not trust the horsepower requirements shown in the shop too much. During our tests, we often found that those required power values were basically made up and did not reflect reality.

As for the Mack Superliner: you said yourself that it is loaded, slipping, and moving at 3 mph. That is clearly an overload.

P.S. I understand that this can be frustrating sometimes. You take a vehicle with almost 200 hp of extra power on paper, and it still turns out to be not enough.

But there is not much I can do about that from the ADS side — this is how FS physics works. In the vanilla game, you would simply assign an AI worker, it would slowly crawl uphill at 5 km/h, and nobody would really notice. With ADS, of course, things are different now.

Taking this into account, I will make the overload thresholds a bit more forgiving, and I will also add a separate global setting for the warning thresholds.

The current stress setting only scales the amount of stress accumulated in the systems, but it does not move the warning thresholds.