Not possible to start any hidden app and can not move them to visible

[elpi07]

Issue Description

Not possible to start any hidden app

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Not possible to start any hidden app

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Environment

Property	Value
App Version	2.1.14 (2114)
macOS	15.7.4
Hardware	Mac16,8 (Apple Silicon)
Collected	2026-02-28T17:42:50Z

Recent Logs (last 5 minutes)

[18:41:07.454] [INFO] 🏁 applicationDidFinishLaunching START
[18:41:07.493] [INFO] StatusBarController initialized
[18:41:07.495] [INFO] Sparkle updater initialized
[18:41:07.495] [INFO] MenuBarManager init starting...
[18:41:07.496] [INFO] Settings loaded successfully
[18:41:07.529] [INFO] Early adopter — lifetime Pro access
[18:41:07.529] [INFO] 🏁 applicationDidFinishLaunching complete
[18:41:07.600] [INFO] Starting deferred UI setup
[18:41:07.600] [INFO] Seeding AH separator position (10000 = far left)
[18:41:07.610] [INFO] Always-hidden separator created at ordinal 2
[18:41:07.611] [INFO] HidingService configured with delimiter
[18:41:07.611] [INFO] Main icon visible - separator menu-only mode
[18:41:07.615] [INFO] Starting hover/scroll/click/drag monitoring
[18:41:07.624] [INFO] Deferred UI setup complete
[18:41:07.624] [INFO] Pre-warming menu bar cache...
[18:41:08.140] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:41:08.140] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[18:41:08.140] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:41:08.144] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[18:41:08.147] [INFO] Initial hide complete
[18:41:11.195] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[18:41:11.195] [INFO] Left-click: calling toggleHiddenItems()
[18:41:11.196] [INFO] toggleHiddenItems() called - state: <private>, authSetting: false
[18:41:11.196] [INFO] toggle() called, current state: <private>
[18:41:11.196] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[18:41:11.196] [INFO] hidingService.toggle() completed, new state: <private>
[18:41:11.220] [INFO] Found 41 apps with menu bar items (0 hidden)
[18:41:11.232] [INFO] Menu bar cache pre-warmed in <private>s
[18:41:12.331] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[18:41:12.331] [INFO] Left-click: calling toggleHiddenItems()
[18:41:12.332] [INFO] toggleHiddenItems() called - state: <private>, authSetting: false
[18:41:12.332] [INFO] toggle() called, current state: <private>
[18:41:12.332] [INFO] hidingService.toggle() completed, new state: <private>
[18:41:12.894] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[18:41:12.894] [INFO] Left-click: calling toggleHiddenItems()
[18:41:12.894] [INFO] toggleHiddenItems() called - state: <private>, authSetting: false
[18:41:12.894] [INFO] toggle() called, current state: <private>
[18:41:12.894] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[18:41:12.895] [INFO] hidingService.toggle() completed, new state: <private>
[18:41:13.315] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[18:41:13.315] [INFO] Left-click: calling toggleHiddenItems()
[18:41:13.319] [INFO] toggleHiddenItems() called - state: <private>, authSetting: false
[18:41:13.319] [INFO] toggle() called, current state: <private>
[18:41:13.320] [INFO] hidingService.toggle() completed, new state: <private>
[18:41:13.491] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[18:41:13.491] [INFO] Left-click: calling toggleHiddenItems()
[18:41:13.492] [INFO] toggleHiddenItems() called - state: <private>, authSetting: false
[18:41:13.492] [INFO] toggle() called, current state: <private>
[18:41:13.492] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[18:41:13.493] [INFO] hidingService.toggle() completed, new state: <private>

Settings Summary

hidingState: expanded
isAnimating: false
delimiterConfigured: true
delimiterLength: 20.00
isMenuOpen: false
isRevealPinned: false
shouldSkipHideForExternalMonitor: false
hasNotch: true
isOnExternalMonitor: false
accessibilityGranted: true

separatorOriginX: 757.00
alwaysHiddenSeparatorOriginX: 257.00
mainIconLeftEdgeX: 1241.00

mainStatusItemVisible: true
statusMenuItemCount: 6

mainButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.main
  action: statusItemClicked:
  hasTarget: true
  windowFrame: x=1241.0 y=844.0 w=16.0 h=34.0
  screen: Built-in Retina Display

separatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.separator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=757.0 y=844.0 w=21.0 h=34.0

alwaysHiddenSeparatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.alwaysHiddenSeparator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4735.0 y=844.0 w=5001.0 h=34.0

nsStatusItemPreferredPositions:
  main: 97
  separator: 593
  alwaysHiddenSeparator: 10000

settings:
  autoRehide: true
  rehideDelay: 5.0s
  findIconRehideDelay: 5.0s
  showOnHover: true
  showOnScroll: true
  showOnClick: false
  showOnUserDrag: true
  showOnLowBattery: false
  showOnAppLaunch: false
  showOnNetworkChange: false
  requireAuthToShowHiddenIcons: false
  showDockIcon: false
  hideMainIcon: false
  dividerStyle: slash
  menuBarSpacing: 1
  iconGroups: 0
  iconHotkeys: 0
  disableOnExternalMonitor: false
  useSecondMenuBar: true
  alwaysHiddenSectionEnabled: true
  alwaysHiddenPinnedItemCount: 0

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Submitted via SaneBar's in-app feedback

[MrSaneApps]

Thanks for the report. I'm sending out a new version tonight that should fix this.

I'll follow up here once it's live.

— Mr. Sane

[MrSaneApps]

Update: I shipped SaneBar 2.1.16 and this fix is included.\n\nPlease update to 2.1.16 and re-test launching hidden apps + moving items to Visible.\n\nIf anything is still broken on 2.1.16, please send fresh in-app diagnostics and I’ll dig in immediately.\n\nI built SaneBar and I’ll keep this issue open until you confirm.\n\n— Mr. Sane

[MrSaneApps]

I’ll keep this open for confirmation.\n\nIf I don’t hear back within 7 days and there’s no repro on 2.1.16, I’ll close this issue as resolved.\n\n— Mr. Sane

[elpi07]

Issue Description

Nothing changed, can not open any app from the second bar. Even Visible, even Hidden, not possible to move from hidden to visible using the move to visible menu.

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Environment

Property	Value
App Version	2.1.16 (2116)
macOS	15.7.4
Hardware	Mac16,8 (Apple Silicon)
Collected	2026-03-01T16:09:39Z

Recent Logs (last 5 minutes)

[17:07:33.599] [INFO] 🏁 applicationDidFinishLaunching START
[17:07:33.633] [INFO] StatusBarController initialized
[17:07:33.635] [INFO] Sparkle updater initialized
[17:07:33.635] [INFO] MenuBarManager init starting...
[17:07:33.635] [INFO] Settings loaded successfully
[17:07:33.664] [INFO] Early adopter — lifetime Pro access
[17:07:33.665] [INFO] 🏁 applicationDidFinishLaunching complete
[17:07:33.739] [INFO] Starting deferred UI setup
[17:07:33.739] [INFO] Seeding AH separator position (10000 = far left)
[17:07:33.748] [INFO] Always-hidden separator created at ordinal 2
[17:07:33.749] [INFO] HidingService configured with delimiter
[17:07:33.749] [INFO] Main icon visible - separator menu-only mode
[17:07:33.754] [INFO] Starting hover/scroll/click/drag monitoring
[17:07:33.762] [INFO] Deferred UI setup complete
[17:07:33.762] [INFO] Pre-warming menu bar cache...
[17:07:34.278] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[17:07:34.280] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[17:07:34.282] [INFO] Initial hide complete
[17:07:37.294] [INFO] Found 41 apps with menu bar items (20 hidden)
[17:07:37.294] [INFO] Menu bar cache pre-warmed in <private>s
[17:07:39.824] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=4, clickType=<private>
[17:07:39.824] [INFO] Showing status menu (anchor: SaneBar.main, buttonFrame: (0.0, 2.0, 16.0, 18.0), windowFrame: (1241.0, 844.0, 16.0, 34.0))
[17:07:41.658] [INFO] User requested update check
[17:07:41.660] [INFO] Settings saved successfully
[17:07:41.663] [INFO] User triggered check for updates
[17:07:41.692] [INFO] Stopped schedule trigger monitoring
[17:07:41.692] [INFO] Stopped script trigger
[17:07:41.692] [INFO] Stopped battery monitor
[17:07:41.692] [INFO] Main icon visible - separator menu-only mode
[17:07:41.693] [INFO] Settings saved successfully
[17:07:48.451] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[17:07:48.451] [INFO] Left-click: opening Browse Icons (leftClickOpensBrowseIcons)
[17:07:48.451] [INFO] show requested mode=secondMenuBar currentMode=nil
[17:07:48.494] [INFO] second-menu-bar show scheduled rehide after 5.000000s
[17:07:48.497] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[17:07:48.497] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[17:07:48.539] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[17:07:48.539] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[17:07:48.574] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[17:07:48.574] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[17:07:49.094] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[17:07:50.189] [INFO] Found 41 apps with menu bar items (1 hidden)
[17:07:57.509] [INFO] Found 41 apps with menu bar items (19 hidden)
[17:07:57.510] [INFO] Attempting to click menu bar item for: <private> (menuExtraId: <private>, statusItemIndex: <private>, rightClick: false)
[17:07:57.510] [INFO] Using hardware-first click path for <private>
[17:07:57.510] [INFO] Performing hardware click fallback for <private>
[17:07:57.615] [INFO] Simulated hardware click at 633.500000, 17.000000
[17:07:58.094] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[17:07:58.094] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[17:07:58.652] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)

Settings Summary

hidingState: hidden
isAnimating: false
delimiterConfigured: true
delimiterLength: 10000.00
isMenuOpen: false
isRevealPinned: false
shouldSkipHideForExternalMonitor: false
hasNotch: true
isOnExternalMonitor: false
accessibilityGranted: true

separatorOriginX: 757.00
alwaysHiddenSeparatorOriginX: -4735.00
mainIconLeftEdgeX: 1241.00

mainStatusItemVisible: true
statusMenuItemCount: 6

mainButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.main
  action: statusItemClicked:
  hasTarget: true
  windowFrame: x=1241.0 y=844.0 w=16.0 h=34.0
  screen: Built-in Retina Display

separatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.separator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4223.0 y=844.0 w=5001.0 h=34.0

alwaysHiddenSeparatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.alwaysHiddenSeparator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4735.0 y=844.0 w=15.0 h=34.0

nsStatusItemPreferredPositions:
  main: 97
  separator: 593
  alwaysHiddenSeparator: 10000

settings:
  autoRehide: true
  rehideDelay: 5.0s
  findIconRehideDelay: 5.0s
  showOnHover: true
  showOnScroll: true
  showOnClick: false
  showOnUserDrag: true
  showOnLowBattery: false
  showOnAppLaunch: false
  showOnNetworkChange: false
  requireAuthToShowHiddenIcons: false
  showDockIcon: false
  hideMainIcon: false
  dividerStyle: slash
  menuBarSpacing: 1
  iconGroups: 0
  iconHotkeys: 0
  disableOnExternalMonitor: false
  useSecondMenuBar: true
  alwaysHiddenSectionEnabled: true
  alwaysHiddenPinnedItemCount: 0

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Submitted via SaneBar's in-app feedback

[MrSaneApps]

Update: I shipped SaneBar 2.1.17 on March 1, 2026.\n\nThis release includes additional fixes for Hidden/Visible moves and icon interaction paths (including second menu bar behavior).\n\nPlease update to 2.1.17, fully quit/reopen SaneBar once, and re-test opening hidden apps and moving items to Visible.\n\nIf anything still fails, please post fresh in-app diagnostics from 2.1.17 right after repro and I’ll trace it immediately.\n\nI built SaneBar and I’ll keep this open until confirmed stable.\n\nThanks,\nMr. Sane

[MrSaneApps]

Quick follow-up for version 2.1.17 (released March 1, 2026): can you confirm whether opening hidden apps and moving items to Visible are fixed on your side now?\n\nPlease reply with one line:\n- fixed on 2.1.17\n- still broken on 2.1.17\n\nIf still broken, please include fresh in-app diagnostics captured immediately after repro.

[elpi07]

Hi,
you will find details down and an attached video. No changes. I can not see any error in logs, but you can see on video, that no any visible icon after opening an app from second bar. Also you see some moving cursor after moving app from hidden to visible but no any visible icon.

Peter

Issue Description

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Environment

Property	Value
App Version	2.1.17 (2117)
macOS	15.7.4
Hardware	Mac16,8 (Apple Silicon)
Collected	2026-03-01T20:10:04Z

Recent Logs (last 5 minutes)

[21:07:53.646] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[21:07:53.646] [INFO] Left-click: opening Browse Icons (leftClickOpensBrowseIcons)
[21:07:53.646] [INFO] show requested mode=secondMenuBar currentMode=nil
[21:07:53.673] [INFO] browse panel show (secondMenuBar) suspended rehide while panel is visible
[21:07:53.676] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:53.676] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[21:07:53.729] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:53.729] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[21:07:53.835] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:53.835] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[21:07:54.400] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[21:07:55.455] [INFO] Found 42 apps with menu bar items (2 hidden)
[21:07:55.455] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:55.455] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:55.455] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:55.455] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:55.455] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:07:55.455] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:04.603] [INFO] close completed (window hidden, cache retained)
[21:08:20.306] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:20.306] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[21:08:20.845] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[21:08:21.887] [INFO] Found 43 apps with menu bar items (2 hidden)
[21:08:21.890] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:21.890] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:22.878] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[21:08:22.878] [INFO] Left-click: opening Browse Icons (leftClickOpensBrowseIcons)
[21:08:22.878] [INFO] show requested mode=secondMenuBar currentMode=Optional(SaneBar.SearchWindowMode.secondMenuBar)
[21:08:22.878] [INFO] browse panel show (secondMenuBar) suspended rehide while panel is visible
[21:08:22.883] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:22.883] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:22.915] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:22.915] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:27.081] [INFO] Found 43 apps with menu bar items (14 hidden)
[21:08:27.082] [INFO] Attempting to click menu bar item for: <private> (menuExtraId: <private>, statusItemIndex: <private>, rightClick: false)
[21:08:27.082] [INFO] Using hardware-first click path for <private>
[21:08:27.082] [INFO] Performing hardware click fallback for <private>
[21:08:27.204] [INFO] Simulated hardware click at 616.500000, 17.000000
[21:08:27.749] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[21:08:28.895] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:28.895] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:30.522] [INFO] Found 43 apps with menu bar items (21 hidden)
[21:08:30.522] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:30.522] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[21:08:36.237] [INFO] Found 43 apps with menu bar items (19 hidden)
[21:08:36.239] [INFO] Attempting to click menu bar item for: <private> (menuExtraId: <private>, statusItemIndex: <private>, rightClick: false)
[21:08:36.239] [INFO] Using hardware-first click path for <private>
[21:08:36.239] [INFO] Performing hardware click fallback for <private>
[21:08:36.340] [INFO] Simulated hardware click at 636.750000, 17.000000
[21:08:36.861] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)

Settings Summary

hidingState: hidden
isAnimating: false
delimiterConfigured: true
delimiterLength: 10000.00
isMenuOpen: false
isRevealPinned: false
shouldSkipHideForExternalMonitor: false
hasNotch: true
isOnExternalMonitor: false
accessibilityGranted: true

separatorOriginX: 717.00
alwaysHiddenSeparatorOriginX: -4747.00
mainIconLeftEdgeX: 1241.00

mainStatusItemVisible: true
statusMenuItemCount: 6

mainButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.main
  action: statusItemClicked:
  hasTarget: true
  windowFrame: x=1241.0 y=844.0 w=16.0 h=34.0
  screen: Built-in Retina Display

separatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.separator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4223.0 y=844.0 w=5001.0 h=34.0

alwaysHiddenSeparatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.alwaysHiddenSeparator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4747.0 y=844.0 w=15.0 h=34.0

nsStatusItemPreferredPositions:
  main: 97
  separator: 593
  alwaysHiddenSeparator: 10000

settings:
  autoRehide: true
  rehideDelay: 5.0s
  findIconRehideDelay: 5.0s
  showOnHover: true
  showOnScroll: true
  showOnClick: false
  showOnUserDrag: true
  showOnLowBattery: false
  showOnAppLaunch: false
  showOnNetworkChange: false
  requireAuthToShowHiddenIcons: false
  showDockIcon: false
  hideMainIcon: false
  dividerStyle: slash
  menuBarSpacing: 1
  iconGroups: 0
  iconHotkeys: 0
  disableOnExternalMonitor: false
  useSecondMenuBar: true
  alwaysHiddenSectionEnabled: true
  alwaysHiddenPinnedItemCount: 0

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Submitted via SaneBar's in-app feedback

[MrSaneApps]

Update on March 2, 2026:\n\nI shipped SaneBar 2.1.18 with additional fixes in icon move/refresh/runtime paths.\n\nPlease test on 2.1.18 and reply with one line:\n- fixed on 2.1.18\n- still broken on 2.1.18\n\nIf still broken, please include fresh in-app diagnostics captured immediately after repro and (if possible) a short video link.\n\nI’ll keep this open until confirmed.\n\n- Mr. Sane

[elpi07]

Issue Description

Nothing changed... see the video.

CleanShot.2026-03-03.at.10.50.36.mp4

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Environment

Property	Value
App Version	2.1.18 (2118)
macOS	15.7.4
Hardware	Mac16,8 (Apple Silicon)
Collected	2026-03-03T09:51:43Z

Recent Logs (last 5 minutes)

[20:30:08.515] [ERROR] 🔧 Move verification failed: expected toHidden=false, separatorX=759.000000, afterX=521.000000, afterMidX=531.500000
[20:30:09.393] [ERROR] 🔧 Move verification failed: expected toHidden=false, separatorX=759.000000, afterX=521.000000, afterMidX=531.500000
[10:46:20.556] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[10:46:50.883] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[10:48:13.645] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[10:48:13.645] [INFO] Left-click: opening Browse Icons (leftClickOpensBrowseIcons)
[10:48:13.645] [INFO] show requested mode=secondMenuBar currentMode=Optional(SaneBar.SearchWindowMode.secondMenuBar)
[10:48:13.645] [INFO] browse panel show (secondMenuBar) suspended rehide while panel is visible
[10:48:13.655] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:13.655] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[10:48:13.668] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:13.668] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 778.000000
[10:48:14.213] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[10:48:15.060] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[10:48:15.060] [INFO] Left-click: opening Browse Icons (leftClickOpensBrowseIcons)
[10:48:15.076] [INFO] close completed (window hidden, cache retained)
[10:48:15.259] [INFO] Found 42 apps with menu bar items (1 hidden)
[10:48:15.259] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:15.259] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:15.259] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:15.259] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:15.907] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=4, clickType=<private>
[10:48:15.907] [INFO] Showing status menu (anchor: SaneBar.main, buttonFrame: (0.0, 2.0, 16.0, 18.0), windowFrame: (1241.0, 844.0, 16.0, 34.0))
[10:48:17.349] [INFO] User requested update check
[10:48:17.354] [INFO] Settings saved successfully
[10:48:17.356] [INFO] User triggered check for updates
[10:48:17.376] [INFO] Stopped schedule trigger monitoring
[10:48:17.376] [INFO] Stopped script trigger
[10:48:17.376] [INFO] Stopped battery monitor
[10:48:17.377] [INFO] Main icon visible - separator menu-only mode
[10:48:17.378] [INFO] Settings saved successfully
[10:48:21.844] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[10:48:21.845] [INFO] Left-click: opening Browse Icons (leftClickOpensBrowseIcons)
[10:48:21.845] [INFO] show requested mode=secondMenuBar currentMode=Optional(SaneBar.SearchWindowMode.secondMenuBar)
[10:48:21.845] [INFO] browse panel show (secondMenuBar) suspended rehide while panel is visible
[10:48:21.854] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:21.854] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:23.447] [INFO] Found 42 apps with menu bar items (21 hidden)
[10:48:23.448] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:23.448] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:28.358] [INFO] Skipping activation for <private>: <private> is already in progress
[10:48:28.724] [INFO] Found 42 apps with menu bar items (9 hidden)
[10:48:28.725] [INFO] Attempting to click menu bar item for: <private> (menuExtraId: <private>, statusItemIndex: <private>, rightClick: false)
[10:48:28.725] [INFO] Using hardware-first click path for <private>
[10:48:28.725] [INFO] Performing hardware click fallback for <private>
[10:48:28.725] [INFO] Hardware click fallback: using immediate spatial center for <private>
[10:48:28.739] [INFO] Simulated hardware click at 550.500000, 15.000000
[10:48:29.275] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[10:48:29.446] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[10:48:29.446] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>

Settings Summary

hidingState: hidden
isAnimating: false
delimiterConfigured: true
delimiterLength: 10000.00
isMenuOpen: false
isRevealPinned: false
shouldSkipHideForExternalMonitor: false
hasNotch: true
isOnExternalMonitor: false
accessibilityGranted: true

separatorOriginX: 757.00
alwaysHiddenSeparatorOriginX: -4760.00
mainIconLeftEdgeX: 1241.00

mainStatusItemVisible: true
statusMenuItemCount: 6

mainButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.main
  action: statusItemClicked:
  hasTarget: true
  windowFrame: x=1241.0 y=844.0 w=16.0 h=34.0
  screen: Built-in Retina Display

separatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.separator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4223.0 y=844.0 w=5001.0 h=34.0

alwaysHiddenSeparatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.alwaysHiddenSeparator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4760.0 y=844.0 w=15.0 h=34.0

nsStatusItemPreferredPositions:
  main: 97
  separator: 593
  alwaysHiddenSeparator: 10000

settings:
  autoRehide: true
  rehideDelay: 5.0s
  findIconRehideDelay: 5.0s
  showOnHover: true
  showOnScroll: true
  showOnClick: false
  showOnUserDrag: true
  showOnLowBattery: false
  showOnAppLaunch: false
  showOnNetworkChange: false
  requireAuthToShowHiddenIcons: false
  showDockIcon: false
  hideMainIcon: false
  dividerStyle: slash
  menuBarSpacing: 1
  iconGroups: 0
  iconHotkeys: 0
  disableOnExternalMonitor: false
  useSecondMenuBar: true
  alwaysHiddenSectionEnabled: true
  alwaysHiddenPinnedItemCount: 0

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[MrSaneApps]

Quick follow-up: I shipped SaneBar 2.1.20 yesterday (March 3, 2026).

Could you update to 2.1.20, fully quit/reopen once, and re-test opening hidden apps plus moving items to Visible?

If it still reproduces, please send an in-app bug report immediately after repro:
Settings -> About -> Report a Bug
and paste diagnostics here.

Thanks,
Mr. Sane

[MrSaneApps]

Quick follow-up to confirm current status on v2.1.20 / b2120 (critical update published March 3, 2026):

Could you check on that version and let me know if this is still happening?

If it is, please submit from SaneBar → Settings → About → Report a Bug right after reproducing. That includes the app version/build + logs automatically so I can verify exactly what state your system is in and ship the right fix fast.

If it's fixed on 2.1.20, I can close this issue.

• Mr. Sane

[elpi07]

Unfortunately, no any changes. First time after reinstall all my hidden apps become Always hidden and after a click on one of them they become just hidden. But no app opening from second bar, no app moving to visible. Nothing changed in my configuration. If this problem is only with me, I’m thinking it could be some wrong settings from the past… bartender or an earlier version on Sanebar? What do you think?

[MrSaneApps]

SaneBar 2.1.22 is now live as a critical stability update.

I still need one fresh in-app bug report from your machine on 2.1.22 if this is still happening there. Please reproduce it once on 2.1.22, then send the in-app bug report immediately after. I want the current logs and current build from your system before I decide whether this stays open or gets closed.

• Mr. Sane

[elpi07]

Issue Description

Nothing changed... no app start, no movement to visible...

CleanShot.2026-03-06.at.18.57.17.mp4

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Environment

Property	Value
App Version	2.1.22 (2122)
macOS	15.7.4
Hardware	Mac16,8 (Apple Silicon)
Collected	2026-03-06T17:58:15Z

Recent Logs (last 5 minutes)

[18:54:38.516] [INFO] 🏁 applicationDidFinishLaunching START
[18:54:38.558] [INFO] StatusBarController initialized
[18:54:38.560] [INFO] Sparkle updater initialized
[18:54:38.560] [INFO] MenuBarManager init starting...
[18:54:38.560] [INFO] Settings loaded successfully
[18:54:38.591] [INFO] Early adopter — lifetime Pro access
[18:54:38.591] [INFO] 🏁 applicationDidFinishLaunching complete
[18:54:38.663] [INFO] Starting deferred UI setup
[18:54:38.663] [INFO] Seeding AH separator position (10000 = far left)
[18:54:38.667] [INFO] Always-hidden separator created at ordinal 2
[18:54:38.669] [INFO] HidingService configured with delimiter
[18:54:38.669] [INFO] Main icon visible - separator menu-only mode
[18:54:38.670] [INFO] Starting hover/scroll/click/drag monitoring
[18:54:38.678] [INFO] Deferred UI setup complete
[18:54:38.678] [INFO] Pre-warming menu bar cache...
[18:54:39.194] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:39.194] [INFO] Hiding items (length → 10000.000000)
[18:54:39.195] [INFO] Initial hide complete
[18:54:41.068] [INFO] statusItemClicked: event type=2, clickType=<private>
[18:54:41.068] [INFO] Left-click: opening Browse Icons (leftClickOpensBrowseIcons)
[18:54:41.068] [INFO] show requested mode=secondMenuBar currentMode=nil
[18:54:41.100] [INFO] browse panel show (secondMenuBar) suspended rehide while panel is visible
[18:54:41.103] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.103] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.103] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 787.000000
[18:54:41.103] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.103] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.103] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 787.000000
[18:54:41.123] [INFO] secondMenuBar show frame=x=976.0 y=717.0 w=275.0 h=122.0 visible=true
[18:54:41.123] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.123] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.123] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 787.000000
[18:54:41.123] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.123] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.123] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 787.000000
[18:54:41.192] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.192] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.192] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 787.000000
[18:54:41.192] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.192] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:41.192] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 787.000000
[18:54:42.142] [INFO] Found 40 apps with menu bar items (19 hidden)
[18:54:42.142] [INFO] Menu bar cache pre-warmed in <private>s
[18:54:42.328] [INFO] secondMenuBar relayout pass=1 frame=x=976.0 y=720.0 w=275.0 h=119.0
[18:54:42.359] [INFO] Found 40 apps with menu bar items (0 hidden)
[18:54:42.360] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:42.360] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:42.360] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: returning 787.000000
[18:54:42.360] [INFO] 🔧 getSeparatorRightEdgeX: window.frame = <private>
[18:54:42.360] [INFO] 🔧 getMainStatusItemLeftEdgeX: window.frame = <private>

Settings Summary

hidingState: expanded
isAnimating: false
delimiterConfigured: true
delimiterLength: 20.00
isMenuOpen: false
isRevealPinned: false
shouldSkipHideForExternalMonitor: false
hasNotch: true
isOnExternalMonitor: false
accessibilityGranted: true

separatorOriginX: 767.00
alwaysHiddenSeparatorOriginX: nil
mainIconLeftEdgeX: 1236.00

mainStatusItemVisible: true
statusMenuItemCount: 6

mainButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.main
  action: statusItemClicked:
  hasTarget: true
  windowFrame: x=1236.0 y=844.0 w=15.0 h=34.0
  screen: Built-in Retina Display

separatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.separator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=767.0 y=844.0 w=20.0 h=34.0

alwaysHiddenSeparatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.alwaysHiddenSeparator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=-4716.0 y=844.0 w=5000.0 h=34.0

nsStatusItemPreferredPositions:
  main: 97
  separator: 593
  alwaysHiddenSeparator: 10000

settings:
  autoRehide: true
  rehideDelay: 5.0s
  findIconRehideDelay: 5.0s
  showOnHover: true
  showOnScroll: true
  showOnClick: false
  showOnUserDrag: true
  showOnLowBattery: false
  showOnAppLaunch: false
  showOnNetworkChange: false
  requireAuthToShowHiddenIcons: false
  showDockIcon: false
  hideMainIcon: false
  dividerStyle: slash
  menuBarSpacing: 1
  iconGroups: 0
  iconHotkeys: 0
  disableOnExternalMonitor: false
  useSecondMenuBar: true
  alwaysHiddenSectionEnabled: true
  alwaysHiddenPinnedItemCount: 0

diagnostics:
    lastActivation:
      startedAt: 2026-03-06T17:57:41.165
      requestedApp: id=org.herf.Flux bundle=org.herf.Flux menuExtra=nil statusItemIndex=nil x=296.0 width=18.0
      didReveal: false
      preferHardwareFirst: true
      initialResolution: forceRefresh=false items=41 method=uniqueId
      initialTarget: id=org.herf.Flux bundle=org.herf.Flux menuExtra=nil statusItemIndex=nil x=296.0 width=18.0
      waitOutcome: skipped (didReveal=false)
      firstAttempt: success=true timedOut=false durationMs=13 fallbackCenter=x=305.0 y=15.0 allowImmediateFallbackCenter=true
      retryAttempt: not-needed
      finalOutcome: click succeeded
    secondMenuBar:
      showRequestedAt: 2026-03-06T17:57:57.186
      currentMode: Optional(SaneBar.SearchWindowMode.secondMenuBar)
      windowVisible: true
      windowFrame: x=540.0 y=639.0 w=711.0 h=200.0
      refreshForced: true
      visibleCount: 20
      hiddenCount: 20
      alwaysHiddenCount: 0
      relayoutPassCount: 25
      lastRelayoutAt: 2026-03-06T17:57:58.860
      lastRelayoutReason: refit

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