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I replaced my earlier comment because it used the wrong workload for evaluating #616. The relevant test is a mixed phase: two resident long-context requests (A/B, about 170K/175K tokens) are decoding, then a third cold 14,023-token prefill (C) is injected. This directly measures the prefill/decode trade-off. Test setup: CT252, 4x Tesla V100-PCIE-32GB, Qwen3.8 Flash-Next AWQ, TP4, MTP3, FP16 KV, 493,491-token KV capacity,
The result is a clear trade-off. In this QSA/Flash-Next workload, the rows and any-page flags did not improve the active decoder by themselves. The pacing knob was the effective part: it raised A's decode rate during C's prefill by about 2.35x versus the all-off control (2.45x versus the rows+any-page arm), while increasing C's TTFT by 2.25 s (+10.8%) and admission-to-first-token by 2.62 s (+43.1%). The normal A+B decode rate before C stayed about 69 tok/s in every arm, so the change protects an existing decode stream during prefill rather than increasing steady-state decode throughput. This is the evidence I should have reported for #616. It supports the mixed-prefill/decode fix and makes the latency cost explicit; it is separate from the prefix-cache retention issue addressed by #617. Raw logs and the analysis are in |
) This is the GPU-time-sharing half of 1CatAI#490. The kernel half of this PR, running the small-query rows of a mixed prefill+decode batch on the paged decode kernels instead of the per-sequence paged prefill kernel, has since landed on main as 8a10215 and is no longer part of the PR. VLLM_1CAT_PREFILL_PACE_STEPS=N (default 0, schedule unchanged): while any running request is decoding, a request that is still in prompt prefill is given a chunk only every N engine steps, through the existing Request.next_decode_eligible_step gate; the other N-1 steps are decode-only. A prefill with nothing else decoding keeps its full budget. This trades the prefilling request's TTFT for the resident decoder's rate. Measured on 2x V100-PCIE-32GB TP2, Qwen3.8-27B-QUASAR-NVFP4, fp16 KV, MTP4, a decoder resident at 240,000 tokens, fixed prompts, zero preemptions: pacing N resident decode during a 16K prefill 16K prefill wait 0 4.2 tok/s 21.3 s 4 11.1 tok/s 31.9 s 8 14.6 tok/s 45.6 s tests/v1/core/test_prefill_pacing.py covers the chunk cadence at N = 0/2/4, the decoder keeping its slot in every step, and a lone prefill staying unpaced. Signed-off-by: areslp <100579+areslp@users.noreply.github.com> Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…gned page With MTP the Mamba page gains num_spec conv slots, the align-mode attention block becomes 816 instead of 784, and every paged-prefill chunk call fell off the BM32 phase kernel's page-784-only fast path: 104 ms instead of 44 ms per 784-token chunk at 104K context, a 2.3x slower prefill for MTP users (1CatAI#490 follow-up). The kernel only used the 784 constant to map each 16-token page slot, so any page size that is a multiple of 16 works. VLLM_FLASH_V100_PREFILL_D256_BM32_ANY_PAGE=1 (default off): page_block_size becomes a kernel argument of the BM32 phase body and the dispatch gate accepts multiples of 16 when the flag is set. Page 784 keeps its existing gate and code path. The M < 32 low-smem software-pipeline gates and the fp8 bridge workspace still assume 784. Standalone: page 816/896 go from 104.4 ms to 43.99 ms, bit-identical to page 784 and to a dense reference. End to end (MTP4, small-query decode rows on, resident decoder at 240,000 tokens): partner 131K prefill 314.7 s -> 207.9 s, 16K 21.3 s -> 19.6 s; with pacing 4 the 131K prefill 400.1 s -> 293.8 s while the resident decoder runs 9.86 tok/s (was 7.38). Output text and logged tokens identical across boots. Signed-off-by: areslp <100579+areslp@users.noreply.github.com> Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Thanks — that's the arm that matters, and it confirms the split. The rows fix landed on main in |
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mainand narrowed.The kernel half of the original PR — running the small-query rows of a mixed prefill+decode batch on the paged decode kernels instead of the per-sequence paged prefill kernel — has since landed on
mainin8a10215d6, where the flag is on by default. That part is dropped here. What remains is the two pieces that are not inmain, both default-off:1.
VLLM_1CAT_PREFILL_PACE_STEPS=N(default 0) — while any running request is decoding, a request still in prompt prefill is given a chunk only every N engine steps, through the existingRequest.next_decode_eligible_stepgate; the other N-1 steps are decode-only. A prefill with nothing else decoding keeps its full budget. This is the GPU-time-sharing half of #490, which the kernel fix does not address: the resident decoder's own row is now cheap, but it still shares each step with the prefill chunk.2.
VLLM_FLASH_V100_PREFILL_D256_BM32_ANY_PAGE=1(default off) — with MTP the Mamba page gainsnum_specconv slots, the align-mode attention block becomes 816 instead of 784, and every paged-prefill chunk call fell off the BM32 phase kernel's page-784-only fast path (104 ms instead of 44 ms per 784-token chunk at 104K context). The kernel only used 784 to map each 16-token page slot, so the gate now accepts any multiple of 16 when the flag is set. Page 784 keeps its existing gate and code path.Measurements
Pacing, on 2x V100-PCIE-32GB TP2, Qwen3.8-27B-QUASAR-NVFP4, fp16 KV, MTP4, a decoder resident at 240,000 tokens, fixed prompts, zero preemptions:
@Leonccaa measured the same trade-off independently on a different config (4x V100-PCIE-32GB TP4, Qwen3.8 Flash-Next AWQ, MTP3, FP16 KV, two residents at ~170K/175K, a cold 14,023-token prefill injected):
That is 2.35x for the resident decoder at +10.8% TTFT for the injected prefill, on a model and quantization this branch was never tuned against.
Any-page: page 816/896 go from 104.4 ms to 43.99 ms standalone, bit-identical to the page-784 path and to a dense reference. End to end (MTP4, resident decoder at 240,000 tokens): a partner 131K prefill drops from 314.7 s to 207.9 s; with pacing 4 it drops from 400.1 s to 293.8 s while the resident decoder runs 9.86 tok/s, up from 7.38.
Tests
tests/v1/core/test_prefill_pacing.py(new): chunk cadence at N = 0/2/4, the decoder keeping its slot in every step, and a lone prefill staying unpaced.tests/kernels/attention/test_sm70_flash_v100_paged_prefill_any_page.py: pages 784/816/896 against the dense reference, with the flag off and on.With both flags unset the scheduler and the kernel dispatch are unchanged.