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Opening this PR to give feedback to workshop participants

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This is great! I left some inline comments with more specifics. Please let me know if I can clarify any of the notes I've made. Thanks much!

Comment thread data/works/tei/10513.xml
<listBibl type="manuscripts">
<head>Manuscripts</head>
<desc xml:lang="en">This is not a comprehensive list of manuscripts related to this work.</desc>
<bibl xml:id="bib10513-1" type="syriaca:Manuscript">

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In general we want to avoid re-numbering the xml:ids of bibl elements. This is because they might be referenced elsewhere in the record (in a @source attribute), so changing the ID can break the link between footnote and citation source. It looks like there aren't any source attributes in this record, so it won't be an issue here. But something to bear in mind

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
<text>
<body>
<bibl xml:id="work-5507" type="lawd:ConceptualWork">
<title xml:id="name5507-1" xml:lang="en" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword">Catechetical Homilies</title>

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each title needs either a @source or resp="http://syriaca.org"

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
<body>
<bibl xml:id="work-5507" type="lawd:ConceptualWork">
<title xml:id="name5507-1" xml:lang="en" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword">Catechetical Homilies</title>
<title xml:id="name5507-2" xml:lang="en" source="#bib5507-1">Catechetical Homilies</title>

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Is this the same title as the preceding one? It is okay to have the headword also be sourced, i.e. you could merge these two together into a single title element, with the source attribute from this one and the srophe:tags attribute from the preceding. You can also renumber the xml:ids, or just leave a gap between 1 and 3.

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
<title xml:id="name5507-4" xml:lang="de" source="#bib5507-12">Katechetischen Homilien</title>
<title xml:id="name5507-5" xml:lang="syr" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword" source="#bib5507-3">ܦܘܫܩܐ ܕܗܝܡܢܘܬܐ ܕܬܠܬܡܐܐ ܘܬܡܢܬܥܣܪ
</title>
<title xml:id="name5507-6" xml:lang="syr" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword" source="#bib5507-14">ܟܬܒܐ ܕܥܠ ܗܝܡܢܘܬܐ</title>

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Only one headword can be declared per language, so of names 5-8 (i.e,. the Syriac titles), only one can be marked as the headword

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml
<title xml:id="name5507-6" xml:lang="syr" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword" source="#bib5507-14">ܟܬܒܐ ܕܥܠ ܗܝܡܢܘܬܐ</title>
<title xml:id="name5507-7" xml:lang="syr" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword" source="#bib5507-3">ܦܘܫܩܐ ܕܐܖ̈ܙܐ </title>
<title xml:id="name5507-8" xml:lang="syr" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword" source="#bib5507-14">ܟܬܒܐ ܕܥܠ ܖ̈ܐܙܐ</title>
<title xml:id="name5507-9" xml:lang="la" srophe:tags="#syriaca-headword" source="#bib5507-13">Liber ad baptizandos</title>

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Like with the Syriac titles, only one Latin title can be listed as the headword, i.e. either title 9 or 10

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
<listBibl type="modernTranslations">
<head>Modern translations</head>
<desc xml:lang="en">This is not a comprehensive list of modern translations related to this work. Further citations may be available through <ref target="http://syriaca.org/cbss">The Comprehensive Bibliography on Syriac Studies</ref>.</desc>
<bibl xml:id="work-5507-6" type="syriaca:ModernTranslation">

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For modern translations, one thing we like to supply is the language into which the work is translated in that citation. This is done with a textLang element. If this bibl is a French translation (I assume but am not sure), we would add <textLang mainLang="fr"/> below its ptr element. And so on for the other bibls in the modern translations section

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
</bibl>
</listBibl>
<listBibl type="modernTranslations">
<head>Modern translations</head>

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Small typo -- should be "Modern Translations"

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
<desc xml:lang="en">This is not a comprehensive list of secondary literature related to this work. Further citations may be available through <ref target="http://syriaca.org/cbss">The Comprehensive Bibliography on Syriac Studies</ref>.</desc>
<bibl xml:id="work-5507-9" type="lawd:Citation">
<title xml:lang="en">Re-Envisioning Theodore: Theodore of Mopsuestia’s Biblical Exegesis in His Catechetical Homilies</title>
<ptr target="https://syriaca.org/cbss/WWMGWC24"/>

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Careful of "https" vs "http" -- Syriaca URIs should use 'http'

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Most are here, I think just this one and the following bibl's

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
<ptr target="http://syriaca.org/cbss/F67YHBCA"/></bibl>
<bibl xml:id="work-5507-12" type="lawd:Citation"><title xml:lang="de">Den Menschen Mit Dem Himmel Verbinden. Eine Studie Zu Den Katechetischen Homilien Des Theodor von Mopsuestia</title>
<ptr target="http://syriaca.org/cbss/UWNXZDXH"/></bibl>
<bibl xml:id="work-5507-13" type="lawd:Citation"><title xml:lang="de">Clavis Patrum Graecorum</title>

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This is excellent to include! We also like to record standard reference numbers, such as those from CPG, BHO, etc. as idno elements, above, so you could add beneath line 97 (i.e., the idno with the Syriaca work URI), the following: <idno type="number" subtype="CPG">3852</idno>. Cf. https://syriaca.org/documentation/schemas/syriacaWorks.compiled.html#referenceNumbers for more on this

Comment thread data/works/tei/5507.xml Outdated
<citedRange unit="p">33</citedRange>
</bibl>
</listBibl>
<listBibl type="manuscripts">

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I don't know that this would throw a validation error, so this one is hard to catch. But we like to order the listBibl elements as follows: Editions, Manuscripts, Modern Translations, Ancient Versions, then Secondary Literature. Of course, not all records will have every type of bibl, so some listBibl elements will be left out. Still, we would want manuscripts here to come right after editions.

As you've already done, when adding or moving bibls, we don't want to change the @xml:id attributes (it is okay for them to be 'out of sequence', as they already are here). This is again because we don't want to lose the references to them made in @source attributes, which is how we create footnotes to the specific citations

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